[vimeo] http://vimeo.com/23153033 [/ vimeo]
A few weeks ago I did one drill of opinion in which we asked how many of you hack applications and how many of you buy them. 20 days have passed since the launch of that survey, 1000 people voted and 59% of them say they hack applications. Of course, the results of a survey are far from being 100% relevant, but we noticed a general tendency of Romanians to make a categorical connection between jailbreak and hacking. From my point of view, this thinking is wrong and shows that too little is known about jailbreak.
In the clip above, saurik, the founder of Cydia, shows us some of the advantages of the jailbreak, but he focuses only on Cydia. The jailbreak is, above all, legal, it represents a modification of the operating system that you as a user are entitled to do without anyone being able to stop you. Even if it was illegal, you could still do whatever you want with your phone because it belongs to you, you own it, you can modify it however you want, but you cannot distribute the modified version of the operating system. Jailbreak is legal, keep this in mind.
Jailbreak means freedom, the freedom to do absolutely anything you want with your terminal. Jailbreak gives you administrator access to the iOS operating system, so you can do absolutely anything you want on your phone without any restrictions. By jailbreaking you can completely modify the operating system as you like, you can install any tweaks or applications from Cydia, you have total freedom. Practically everything boils down to this principle of freedom, of the possibility to decide how to use the phone and nothing more.
Why is there an equal sign between jailbreak and hacking? Because since the AppStore has existed, there have been people who hack applications and publish them on the Internet, where anyone with a jailbroken terminal can install them without paying. The equal sign is wrong because not everyone who jailbreaks hacks applications. Most foreigners who jailbreak buy applications and tweaks from Cydia, but in Romania the situation is different. Romanians hack applications and this has nothing to do with the iPhone, because in Romania they hack anything for anything.
In Romania it is considered that jailbreak means piracy and that is fundamentally wrong. Those who say this do not understand the jailbreak and what it actually offers you, those who say this do so in ignorance of the cause. Jailbreak offers freedom, hacking is a component of this freedom, but everyone chooses whether they need to hack or not. Remember, jailbreaking is legal, jailbreaking means freedom, jailbreaking is not hacking.
Please share it so that the world understands what the jailbreak is all about!
here, because of poverty, we live with obsession: to be cheap, to be mocha. Unfortunately, what is moca is not good. I had a friend abroad who told me that he buys windows, applications, etc. I was laughing at him. after a few years of experience, I came to the conclusion that he was right. Legal software is the safest, most stable. don't be afraid that a trojan is inserted into the iso by an idiot who copied it from the net and uses it for who knows what purposes.
Well done Zaone. I hope there are others who will understand your message
I jailbroken myself only for decoding... I only have 2 games installed and I don't play them either... I only use it for the internet
I only use it as a phone... that's why Apple can't do what we Romanians do with iPhones
I think that until one more time, there is no chance for the majority to see jailbreak as a tool to be able to modify their device according to their preferences and not just as a step in being able to install cracked applications.
The reason, not necessarily poverty, but snobbery and the desire to own something they cannot afford. This is valid on all scales, from a simple mobile phone to cars, houses, etc. I perfectly agree with everyone's aspiration to have something better, more beautiful, more wonderful, but I don't agree with making enormous sacrifices to get something that you can't afford to maintain later , because you have nothing left to do, the effort made to acquire it far exceeding the possibilities of the respective individual. And then, where will he get the money to buy his applications, when he barely manages to pay the subscription made to buy his phone? On a larger scale, it's the same situation as those who take out loans for many years to buy a "cool" car, but who barely have money for fuel and shout loudly that they will be forced to buy winter tires, obviously, which they cannot afford, because they have installments to pay. God forbid something is wrong with the car, because it ends up rusting in front of the block. The fact that you are poor does not justify theft in any way (because in the end, that's what it boils down to, it's theft).
We don't have this stagnant culture: I do a simple calculation, how much I earn, how much it costs me to maintain, and I buy something that fits my income, without putting myself in the hole financially. Just as there is no culture of paying for what we use. Why pay when I can get it for free? I do jb and wear what I want, without taking a penny out of my pocket. And we wonder why we are among the last to be taken into account by those who produce software, it's normal, they don't have much to gain from us...
I'm not generalizing. There are many who are correct, but still few in the mass of those who are not...
Jailbreak is like a bridge to hacking!! It's like a key that opens the door to all possibilities (approximately) :))!!!! So everyone has their own fault! But at the same time doing jb and without installing installous you are no longer a pirate ๐ !! I also said: I don't feel like spending money on apps ;)! And at the same time, I don't feel like a replay of this answer! Clear!! I don't need decoding, I use Installous that much, I don't even get anything from Cydia...and the rest is Cancan :)!!!
@halex, I don't know why you have the impression that what you say is valid only for Romanians... it is perfectly valid for anyone, from any country, from any age category, etc. According to your mentality, if we can't afford something and even if we find it for free (paid or not), should we pretend it's raining? It's not about 1 euro that a game costs, but from my point of view the problem is if I can get it for free, do I still pay for it? I paid for certain programs, not because someone forced me to, but because I wanted to, but 95% of what I use are pirated, and I'm not just talking about iPhone applications/games, the same happens with music, movies, pc programs... and whoever says it's not like that, LIES. There is a fairly small proportion of people who do not use pirated anything for 2 reasons:
1. They can afford anything and they don't care. 2. They don't know how, so it's much easier to use the Appstore (they probably don't have JB and will never use it either).
So, I'm not generalizing, but I think that anyone who doesn't fit into the above categories will use pirated applications, whether it's an iPhone or something else.
jailbreak = hacking for users. Why? Because most of them do jb for installous and decoding and not for the tweaks in cydia. Let's be serious, those tweaks are useless. Even if they try to give a different connotation to the jailbreak, it is superfluous. Initially, this meant freedom, but damn, if there was no installous in Cydia, the number of downloads for jailbreak programs would decrease dramatically.
no one says that cydia makes money from apple? has anyone forgotten what profit they have?
JB is everyone's choice. he exists you can choose to do it or not. It is neither bad nor good. And apple doesn't control it, it just burns you under warranty if it catches you....For example apple tv without jailbreak is fixed 0. And there nobody steals anything. It is an open source that is installed. so no theft. they are passionate people who want to create. HOBBY.
I think that here there are no people from the category of snobs or idiots, as someone said above. But simply passionate about iphone, atv, and everything apple.
According to reports, about 10% of iPhone users use jailbreak. of these 10%, not all of them use cracked applications, so the percentage of those who, globally, only use paid or free applications or do not use applications at all (I have also come across cases like this, they have a smartphone and use it exclusively for talking , not you data, not you applications) โ is overwhelming.
http://www.idevice.ro/2010/08/11/40-dintre-cei-care-fac-jailbreak-instaleaza-aplicatii-piratate/
This is an article in which some quite conclusive figures are stated quite clearly in my opinion.
I also use Installous, and I have installed pirated applications, most of them simply to see them at work. And if I liked the application, I bought it. Ultimately, the prices for most applications are absolutely reasonable, even for our reduced purchasing power.
This also depends on the selection of the applications used, many people pile up applications that they then never use, or have no real need for them.
Concrete example of what I was talking about earlier: navigation apps. I mean, you have a car and you can't afford to spend 50-60 ron on Igo Ro+ Hu. Or, you have money to travel abroad, but you don't spend the money on a navigation software, which you pay once and then use for a long time. Or you don't have a car, you don't go for a walk, but you put a navigation software on your iPhone, that's cool.
I don't want to argue with anyone, it's my opinion and that's all, but we should understand that once we enter, so to speak, "among the world" in terms of mentality and behavior, the results will be fine both for software producers, as well as for us, regular users. When a developer sees in the statistics that in Romania the revenues from the sale of applications are very low, it is clear that he will not channel his resources to include us, other than tangentially, in his projects. If he sees that money is being made with us, then we will also have more support from the ladies and we will be taken into account without discrimination.
I am of the opinion that in general the world perceives the jailbreak as an open OS and especially for unlocking.
If in addition to these you can also install mocha applications, why not? ๐
It's good that there are at least some of those who are aware that they steal and admit it, I also steal, and I consider that I'm doing a bad thing. That they use the software or not, that they are good or not, that they are worth the money or not, is another story. You decide if it's worth buying or not, but it's not good to steal.
The only thing I would like from the producers is to give some lite, free versions, especially for the more expensive applications or games. It would also be to their advantage if they would tempt me with some good levels in the game and attract me to buy it. For example, I would like to buy some games with better graphics made especially for iPad 2, but I would like to see how they look first. If there were jailbreaks for iPad2, I would probably take them from installous and not buy them again. At this moment, however, they lose a customer, or at least a potential customer, and out of hundreds of thousands who would try lite versions, they would still sell quite a lot.
jailbreak is a gateway drug ๐
To be honest, when I will have a decent salary at the European level, 3000-5000 euros, I will buy all the applications from the appstore without any hesitation. I've already bought a few games for $1, so I know what something original means. At the moment I can't afford to spend a few hundred eruo on all the applications, I have other things to do with the money. I agree that a thing bought is a relief, I have a jail for unlocking, I don't use tweaks, I like ios in its pure state, thank you. When I have that salary I will buy a neverlock iphone and I will not jailbreak.
@Crixalis
Wait. With this reasoning, I wouldn't hire you even for โฌ500. Do you really think that in Europe you earn 3000-5000โฌ? You are very hungry there...
You also earn if you are a doctor, for example.
@Stefan, but who says that he must necessarily be employed? You get this money easily from a well-established business, to have a high salary you don't necessarily have to be employed, you probably don't think of earning so much money without being employed by a boss. Look, maybe in a few years, if things go well, I'll have that money, who knows, maybe you'll be my employee :). To your surprise, I have a SEO friend at a big company in Switzerland and he has a salary of 12.000 euros and he is 29 years old. So you also leave the house before giving your opinion.
Jailbreak by itself means computer piracy, by unauthorized modification of the source of a proprietary program.
Is there a smart dialer or t9, I don't know what it's called, free, for iPhone?
I use JB to the maximum, to the maximum I said.
I can't use iphone and ipod touch without sbsetting & co. ๐
@Dan: I wonder where you got that from?
@crixalis I don't understand your argument. On this principle, why didn't you steal the iPhone from the store, why don't you steal clothes, food or cars, just because you have a low salary. Because you're afraid or because you're fair and don't want to steal? I think that if you are so poor, you should sell your iPhone. Where did you get the money to buy it?
@bpm: kuaidial and it works perfectly, I recommend it with confidence.
ontopic: I'm one of the few people who spend money on apps/games, especially quality ones, because that way the developer will continue his work and bring out quality things, but I got the ship software hacked for the simple reason that I can't afford it.
@cucubau, ms fain, great appetite for mitites ๐
But if I don't have JB, which one can I use?
Jailbreak can be legal, illegal or immoral, I don't care. I give it up for good. I kept trying both with and without, and seeing that an iPhone 4 with a new battery and ios 4.3.2 jailbroken with redsnow doesn't last a day, I prefer to buy what I need and that's it. It's not acceptable, it's not professional, it's stupid. point.
PS - lag in the menu as much as it includes.
Yes, on iOS 4.3.2 it works so hard... iPad 2 with 4.3 doesn't work too well either..
I decided to do jb, to see how it is. Will I lose the applications I have now?
@zaone: If you support the legality of JB so strongly, please show us the legal basis for this support! As far as I understand the Law of copyright and related rights, in force in RO, the situation is exactly the other way around...
In fact, the methods by which JB is done are also prohibited in the US by law (the DMCA provides a fine of $2500 for each such violation), but the Copyright Office of the Library of Congress in the US has decided not to penalize people who do JB for unlock (!), arguing that blocking phones in a network does not constitute copyright, so those who do JB for unlock do not affect copyright, because unlock has nothing to do with copyright protection .
So JB is banned by the DMCA, but the authors of JB FOR UNLOCK will not be penalized due to the exception decided by the Library of Congress. So JB with a purpose other than unlock could still be penalized!
Furthermore, the exception instituted by the Library of Congress is valid for ONLY 3 YEARS, after which JB becomes sanctionable again unless the exception is extended by a new decision of the Library of Congress.
Anyway, all this only applies in the US, in RO the Copyright Act has not been amended in this regard, so I don't see why we should shout that it is legal to do JB just because an American institution decided that there not 3 more years of fines apply for JB followed by unlocking... ๐
apple could put in a jailbreak detection method to stop you using the device PERMANENTLY ๐ yes, with that they would only say goodbye to 10% of customers who advertise moka -) it hurts them in the pen of 10% of bitter people who don't I can afford an application of a few dollars maximum ๐
Regulators agreed, declaring Monday that "the activity of an iPhone owner who modifies his or her iPhone's firmware/operating system in order to make it interoperable with an application that Apple has not approved, but that the iPhone owner wishes to run on the iPhone, fits comfortably within the four corners of fair use.
BTW, read a little about what is applied by international law. That license held by Apple has certain application limits, after the customer buys the product, he is limited only in the distribution of modified versions of it. Otherwise, that crap with a legal jailbreak only for unlocking, I'm dying to know where you read it. You clearly understood what they wanted to say.